The Public Face of incest - Tackling pedophilia and Pornography

[DaughterUK]

This is my second article I'm posting here on the subject of the incest community. I'd like to share with you another article I posted to my website. While this, again, was initially intended for my regulars, I think it necessary to share them with you so that you may better understand my people, the way we think, the way we are, and the problems we face online and offline.

If you have not already read the first essay I posted, then by all means please do.
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The Responsibilities of the Community

An Introduction
This essay exists primarily to highlight our responsibilities within the incest community. Our current everyday issues concern the advice given to others, keeping our cyberspace free from pedophiles and other would-be sex offenders, protecting vulnerable youngsters who wander into our sites seeking genuine answers, tackling the pornography problem, and showing who we truly are.

At present, no other community suffers from the problems that we do. We are a relatively tiny group on the grand scale of things, but what we lack in numbers we can and will make up for in our morals and practical approach to tackling our problems. We cannot simply sweep things under the carpet and pretend that these issues do not exist, we can’t sit and whine about it without taking real action, nor can we afford to give up because the porn-addicts and other idiots outnumber us ten to one or even more. I do realize that I’m preaching to the choir by posting this on my own forum, but I believe that this essay will be informative for newbies who are confused and dismayed about what they have seen on other sites, and inspirational to everyone else. Now is the time for us, as a community of people, to take responsibility for ourselves and what goes on in our corner of cyberspace.
What advice is good advice?

Presently, many people who are either interested in beginning and incestuous relationship or are already in one but hit a snag, will come to a forum dedicated to the subject and post their question, only to be given advice that is at best inappropriate or at worst if acted upon would constitute a sexual offense. Time and again, somebody will post their question with a little background information, and the response will be asinine at best, ‘just f**k her’ or ‘let her catch you masturbating and ask for a hand’ is the staple here. Such advice cannot and will not work, because human relationships do not work this way, incestuous or otherwise. As a matter of fact, most of this form of ‘advice’ is given by porn-addicted one handed typists who go to the mainstream incest sites purely for masturbational purposes. These people aren’t interested in giving any genuine advice, so much as they are after the original poster to give a ‘success story’ a couple of days later complete with sordid details to enable them to jack off. Effectively they clutter each thread with their nonsense, and don’t give the genuine newcomer the support they need.

The only people who are really qualified to give advice to these new members of our community are other incestuous people who have been through the confusion and doubt. Those of us who know firsthand all of the issues involved, and know what to expect when a platonic family relationship transforms into a romantic one can guide the newcomer through the emotional storm. The exact advice given by the genuine community members is a measured response based on many factors, such as whether either party is involved with any other persons, how old each party is, what the thoughts and instincts of the original poster are, whether either has children that the budding relationship will need to be kept a secret from… etc. Ultimately, if the newcomer is genuine he or she will appreciate the sound advice and ignore the hoards of idiots posting masturbational garbage. Genuine people can usually spot the real deal from a faker a mile away.

Tackling pedophilia

Although I will write an essay dedicated to the problem that these monsters pose both inside and outside of our cyberspace, they are relevant to this essay and so I must include a mention of them here too. Pedophiles and pedophile advocates are the ultimate scourge on most mainstream incest sites, because as annoying and repetitive as the fakers and wankers are, they at the very least aren’t pushing an evil agenda by pretending that it’s perfectly okay to have sexual encounters with children. We must get rid of these people at all costs, we must report them to the police, the FBI, whatever, just get them off our sites wherever we go. We have a responsibility to protect children, and that means reporting any person claiming to be having inappropriate sexual relations with a child.

Pedophiles once pretended that they were ‘gay’ in the hopes that their sick child molesting activities would be legalized alongside ordinary homosexual and lesbian activity. Naturally the gay community wanted absolutely nothing to do with them and called them on their bullshit. Now, realizing that incestuousness is most likely the next (and realistically the last) sexual orientation that can be considered for legalization the pedophiles are pretending to be incestuous and are showing up on our sites in hoards. Truth is that these monsters are only interested in turning up in our cyberspace for that reason, because they know deep down that they are sick and twisted, and they know that their activities cause immense harm to children. Lacking any valid argument of their own they attempt to hijack the mainstream incest sites for their agenda.

The ONLY way we can deal with them is to do as homosexuals did before us: we shun them completely and call them on their bullshit. That means that ANY pedophilic fantasy postings, pedo-advocacy or claims of actual pedophilic activity should be met with an automatic BAN to IP level from the site in question. If the poster has claimed to have molested a child, at that point it is quite possible and necessary to make an anonymous report to the relevant authorities.

Protection of the young and vulnerable

These days it is not so unusual for teenagers to be sexually active, and many teens do have sex with their classmates, and hopefully take note in sex education classes to prevent unwanted pregnancies. This said there are some teens who may be thinking about what exactly their sexuality is. Some of these wonder if they might be gay, some wonder if they might have a foot fetish, and yet others wonder what it might be like to be involved with a family member. The transition between childhood and adulthood is a confusing time for most people, with the raging hormones, the pressure of doing well in classes, and the peer pressure at that age to be into doing certain things is immense. For this reason a teen who thinks that he or she might be incestuous will naturally feel isolated and confused, and ultimately they end up on our cyber-doorstep looking for help. Some of these kids might already have experimented with similar age siblings, and yet others might have been taken advantage of by older relatives or even might have been subjected to sexual abuse at the hands of a pedophile.

Our advice to these kids should always be measured, proportionate, and age-appropriate. This means that we should advise them against breaking the law by having sexual relations with anybody whilst they are still underage. We should explain to the teenager how and why incestuous relationships are different from normal ones, and make them realize what the issues are and what is really involved. In short we tell them the truth, it means a life of hiding and secrets and the legal consequences of getting caught in most countries, and it also means learning to be both family and lover to the other person. Needless to say, monotonous as it is, the safe-sex speech MUST be reiterated, especially by those of us young enough to remember being a teen but old enough to know the score. If the kid has been sexually abused or raped, then we should put them into contact with websites that help victims to deal with and heal from their abuse, this is the purpose of the new sub forum I recently created within DaughterUKsWorld, They might have simply typed ‘incest’ into a search engine and ended up on our doorstep.

Most importantly, we should gently discourage the teen from coming back to incest sites until he or she is legally old enough to join one. Think about it, there are pedophiles and other sexual predators on the overwhelming majority of incest sites; there is jack-off fantasists who are interested only in porn and who give inappropriate advice. Incest sites, as they currently are, are no place for a vulnerable young person. No advice is better than the advice given by these brain-dead idiots, and at the very least, once the teen has been to a site and knows about the existence of the incest communities, he or she will know that there is something out there ready for them to join when they are of age should incest be their eventual sexual orientation at that point. In short we can ONLY welcome confused teenagers into our community once we have our own house in order, and we’re a very long way off that being the case.

Tackling the Pornography Problem

Tackling the prevalence of so-called ‘incest porn’ will be a very difficult challenge for our people, mostly because those who watch it outnumber those of us in real relationships who find it insulting. The reason it is insulting to us should be obvious to most rational people, and yet the one-handed typists don’t either want to understand why or even care. Those who frequently view pornographic materials (simulated incest or not) end up with a rather skewed understanding of sexual interactions between human beings, they can’t get an actual real live partner because of this skewed understanding, and then become trapped in a vicious circle of porn-addiction and social inadequacy. Therefore it becomes obvious that the pornography is actually harmful to those who watch it regularly. Much of the pornography in question is actually degrading to women in the sense that it objectifies the woman as being there solely for the sexual pleasure of the man, not as the two-way street that normal sexual interactions are.

As for the ‘incest porn’, it depicts the exact opposite of what really goes on within incestuous relationships. Incest is a type of relationship that involves a very deep bond on all levels between the two people involved. The couple must be family, lover and friend simultaneously in order for incest to work. The pornography depicts only the act of sex, and to reduce such a meaningful relationship that incest is to mere sex is beyond an insult in my eyes. This is why I strongly believe it has to be tackled internet wide, by educating people about the dangers of porn addiction and by petitions if necessary. The only non-option is to continue to do nothing, because if we do nothing then nothing will change, and there is no point in complaining about something but never doing anything about it. My own first step was to create this forum to be a porn free environment.

Changing the public face of incest

As we already know, incest is against the law in the overwhelming majority of countries, and this is because of how incestuous people are perceived by the general public. If we for the moment put ourselves in the shoes of a non-incestuous person, when would we hear about incest? We would normally hear about it in the news whenever a child has been sexually abused. What of the person who is doing academic research on incest between consenting adults and comes across monstrosities like incestquest and the like? Judging by the porn, the bullshit advice, and the occasional pedophile, would that researcher truly see incest in a positive light? Of course he wouldn’t. Neither the person watching the news, nor the researcher would have any reason whatsoever for believing that it wasn’t the true face of incest. Naturally, all of this helps to keep incest illegal.

In order to change the public face of incest we need to face up to the very serious problems that the community at large has. In the long haul this means campaigning against the porn, it means calling the fakers on their bullshit, it means dealing with pedophiles swiftly and harshly, and it means helping the victims of childhood sexual abuse get the help they need by pointing them in the right direction towards getting some therapy. Sure, the law discriminates against us, but we can’t change the law until we address these grave issues. As a minority group we are a LONG way off being ready to have our first public campaigns.

Conclusion

None of the above issues will go away by ignoring them, we MUST do something, even if just a little each day. That in itself is part of the reason I set this forum up, to be the voice of reason amongst all the idiocy out there where the TRUE incest community can come and for once feel free to be ourselves. Our people have a very long and difficult fight ahead of us, and right now I know that changing the status quo seems impossible, but if we all just do a little bit as often as we can, we can make a real difference in the long run. We are not the first community to have faced impossible odds. This forum is a backbone of common sense and love that the muscle of numbers will grow on in time. I might sound to some of you like I’m just rambling, but I set up this place because I believe in something, a strong and united community that could potentially within a few decades take on the status quo. Even if the job is not for our generation, we can do the groundwork for the following generations. Whatever we do, we should NOT lie down and give up.

One person can change the course of history, like Martin Luther King and how he fought for the equal rights of black people. If a single person can change the course of history, don’t you think that even a handful of us can make a difference for all incestuous people, even though we must go about our battle in a different way at first? All we need is enough faith in ourselves, and enough faith that the truth about the positive side of incest, our online testimonies, can win over the hearts and minds of non-incestuous people. I for one do have that faith.
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Well, that's my second article. I hope that after reading both my articles on this subject, you are starting to understand us. People are not used to hearing our point of view, because we remain in the shadows, hidden. The internet allows us to break free of that shadow and show the world who we are.

DaughterUK

[Goodteacher]

No matter the situation. No matter the circumstance. No matter the context. No matter what, Incest is bad. Incest relationships are abominable. There is no real happiness in incest relationships. those involved in incestous acts are consumed by their sexual pleasures which isn't good at all.