What are your views on incest relationships/marriages?

[rmholla]

Incest is having physical relationship with blood relatives.
This is not a crime legally, but i think its a crime morally. I think its dirty.
There are some religions like Islam in which, marriages between real cousins are allowed.

Forced incest is wrong. Having sexual relations with someone closely related to you can cause problems with any offspring that should happen so people should consider that before bearing children.

I find it hard to believe that many people would WANT to have relations with someone closely related to them so it only affects a small portion of the population.

As to the moral aspects, I'm not sure what is immoral about it. If it happens between 2 consenting adults what is the problem? How far apart blood-wise would they need to be for you to accept it? Can I marry my second cousin? Where do you draw the line?

What are your views on it?

[ASOR]

I think that perhaps consenting incest relationships might not be all that bad. It could get people more comfortable with the opposite sex. Marriage, I don't know. Just because a religious book says it is wrong, is it??? What I do strongly oppose is having children in such a relationship. This, I believe, is something that society has to protect itself from this.

I would be OK with incestual marriage as long as at least one of the two were sterilized. Of course there would be the problem of accidental incest babies. I don't like abortion, but I don't want to get rid of it. At the same time, I don't want to see abortion just because it is a case of incest.

[janwei]

Originally Posted by daydreamer

Incest is having physical relationship with blood relatives.

This is not a crime legally, but i think its a crime morally. I think its dirty.

There are some religions like Islam in which, marriages between real cousins are allowed.

What are your views on it?

Well, here in Germany it's illegal to have sexual relationships with blood relatives, but i am not quite sure if this applies to cousins too or just for Tier 1 relatives, like sister & brother, father & daughter.

Personaly i think it's not a good thing and it's good that it is illegal. There is scientific proof that sexual relationships between blood relatives may lead to misbuilded children. So there may be a child born into this world with abnormalities and health problems. These childs would be doomed to live a life in pain and severe problems. It's iresponsible if someone does that.

[DaughterUK]

Originally Posted by daydreamer

Incest is having physical relationship with blood relatives.

This is not a crime legally, but i think its a crime morally. I think its dirty.

There are some religions like Islam in which, marriages between real cousins are allowed.

What are your views on it?

I'm 26/f and in an incest relationship with my dad. Really I just don't see why people even see incest as such a big issue. Sure it's unusual, but then people used to have a problem with gay people too. Nothing dirty about it, incest isn't all about sex you know, it's a type of relationship.

[shymaaz]

Originally Posted by DaughterUK

I'm 26/f and in an incest relationship with my dad. Really I just don't see why people even see incest as such a big issue. Sure it's unusual, but then people used to have a problem with gay people too. Nothing dirty about it, incest isn't all about sex you know, it's a type of relationship.

May i know what kind of relationship it is? To what extent you people enjoy this relationship? Only physical touches generating pleasure or it has gone to the extent which is generally not allowed in any religion??? It will be helpful to me in a way..you can answer me in A PM ALSO.
tHANKS

[DaughterUK]

Originally Posted by shymaaz

May i know what kind of relationship it is? To what extent you people enjoy this relationship? Only physical touches generating pleasure or it has gone to the extent which is generally not allowed in any religion??? It will be helpful to me in a way..you can answer me in A PM ALSO.
tHANKS

Basically, we're romantically and sexually involved, as well as being family. It is true that religion bans this sort of relationship, but those bans were in place long before the first contraceptives appeared on the scene. I'm taking the contraceptive injection so he cannot get me pregnant.

You're asking to what extent people enjoy having incestuous relationships? We're a very small minority, and one still in preparation stages for our eventual fight for equal rights in nearly every country. Because of the taboo nature of incest, there are a lot of people who might be interested in such a relationship but are afraid of breaking the taboo.

If you're asking whether we enjoy being in these relationships... well of course we do. I for one wouldn't be in this relationship if it didn't feel right to me. I love him as my dad, and I love him as my lover. Basically, I just completely fell in love with him, and him with me. The romantic bond is built on the pre-existing family bond, it is quite a unique type of relationship in this regard because it requires that these two roles to each other remain in harmony.

I realize that this arrangement probably sounds weird to people, but it does exist, and there are far far more normal incestuous people like me out there than the abusers you hear about on the news. I even run a small forum for the friends I've made in the incest communities online, so I have spotted general trends and thinking patterns common to all of us. Aside from my relationship choice, I am really no different from the next person.

DaughterUK

[Jayvader]

Originally Posted by DaughterUK

Basically, we're romantically and sexually involved, as well as being family. It is true that religion bans this sort of relationship, but those bans were in place long before the first contraceptives appeared on the scene....

DaughterUK

i agree their is nothing wrong with a relationship family members i'm in one with my mother we love each other dearly.

[boboyt]

what the hell is this world coming too. dam man god needs to come and take me up because I'm tired of seeing shit like this. u cannot make this ok, even if there adults u keep that shit on lock between u and whoever. i try not to judge people, but this is just wrong. and u put this shit on this website. go to therapy get your head scan because i know no one is born like this.

ITS not right. and please don't talk about it on here and don't try to make it right, and gay marriage isn't right either.

[AltMvz]

Oh my God!! One is getting it on with her Da and the other getting it on with his mother, while finding time to preach religious doctrine. Jeez! I'm speechless!!!!!!

DaughterUk forgive for saying this but i think your fathers is B*****D. No way do i blame you because it's probably going on for some time. But children look to their parents for guidance and your Dad seems to be a selfish Azzhole only thinking of himself.

Did you know all life (that i know of) go out of their way to mate outside their family circle. Plants depend on bees etc to go as far away as possible. Lions leave to find their own circle etc etc. All animals do the same.
It's not just a moral issue. It's built into us like it is in animals. There must be a pretty good bloody reason for this.
If it was just a sexual thing then i think there would be many more instances of this happening. But i think there's more to it, when most people would gag to think of having sex with their sister/brother. There's something else happening. I once read smell had something to do with it but alas i won't pretend i know a whole lot about it.

[DaughterUK]

I was an adult when I started this relationship, and I'd already had boyfriends before. It wasn't like I didn't know exactly what I was doing. I'd had sexual thoughts about him for a long time before I finally acted on it and I don't regret it. I wasn't abused or groomed into it, we BOTH fought our feelings for a long time but it became too much... can you imagine what that's like, loving somebody with all your heart but knowing that society says that person is out of bounds? I can't help feeling the way I do, and neither can he.

I agree that most people don't want incestuous relationships, but I strongly suspect that incest between consenting adults is far more common than most people realize. People just don't hear about it or know about it because it is a very hidden thing, it's only hidden because there are laws and a strong social taboo against it. Nothing wrong with trying to tackle peoples ignorance and prejudice.

boboyt, why shouldn't we talk about it? This is a global issues forum, and in my eyes the oppression and hate shown towards the incest community in lots of countries over the world is an irrational phobia fuelled by the media and ignorance. So far only France and Holland have stopped the persecution. Our cause is a global issue therefore it is a relevant topic for discussion. You might not like what I have to say, but it is my right to say it, that is the beauty of freedom of speech. It's easy to hate but not so easy to understand.

to some extent, it's true that incest is a kind of relationship. I have been thinking that, what if I realize my current gf is my lost blood related sister (just a stupid scenario), will I stop everything we have been doing together so far, that let me had the most beautiful time in my life?

Yes it's a matter of moral, but morality is an image built up by society, like in Ancient time of Rome the royal used to do it to keep their throne, so it's considered normal. That's also a private matter of choice, sure that everyone know incest is wrong (But I don't), so why there's people that commit this indecent and immoral act ? Generally, some who isn't in this special relationship will think it involves violation, force, delusion and lust. But for someone who's in it right now and living happily with it, it's the gift from heaven itself, that's nothing wrong.

But incest often results birth deflects and crank the genetic code, so the fruit of love will be cruel upon the child that will be born. So for me, as long as incest relationship doesn't bear any fruit from that, there will be no bad consequence, loving each other is not wrong, if it's the reason to live for that one, we should not take that from them.

So to sum up, I'm not encourage anyone or individuality to commit this relationship, if the partner is consent then it's not a problem. However, everything has two side, no matter how beautiful we think it is, it might end up in sorrow and despair for both if we don't prevent the bad consequence with appropriate preventing plan.

Actually I have been given this much thought for some reason, I have fondness for my cousin, but in my country it's a taboo and I found it rather cruel. So I wish for anyone who's out there and in love with your close blood related kin (as they do for you), treasure it and don't ever bother what everyone say, true love is rare to find, it's like the sanctity of gay people's marriage, as long as you have your own moment of life, that's what matter, am I right ?

[crazy boy]

Originally Posted by DaughterUK

I'm 26/f and in an incest relationship with my dad. Really I just don't see why people even see incest as such a big issue. Sure it's unusual, but then people used to have a problem with gay people too. Nothing dirty about it, incest isn't all about sex you know, it's a type of relationship.

are you not having a doubts of that, or got scared having affair with your own dad?i want an advice is it really bad to fall in love with a family member? because me and my own aunt having a relationship now were in love to each other but sometimes i have a feeling that she's afraid because of our family.i can't live without her i thought before it was just an admiration but after a year im still in love with her more then my aunt i can't get off her of my mind i want her she's the only one i want she told me that too but until now she's afraid.are we going to continue this or not?

Originally Posted by DaughterUK

I was an adult when I started this relationship, and I'd already had boyfriends before. It wasn't like I didn't know exactly what I was doing. I'd had sexual thoughts about him for a long time before I finally acted on it and I don't regret it. I wasn't abused or groomed into it, we BOTH fought our feelings for a long time but it became too much... can you imagine what that's like, loving somebody with all your heart but knowing that society says that person is out of bounds? I can't help feeling the way I do, and neither can he.

Hi, I am in the midst of searching for people out there like me, a daughter who has been in an incest relationship with their father. So far, it is a relief to me to know I am not alone... Im in the kind where I hadnt seen my dad since I was a baby. We reunited in my 20's and fell in love. I want to see people talk about their experience with this in detail.. not explicit detail.. but how one would feel in a situation like this.. I know especially me as a christian who would feel and with God's help understand this "happenstance". And as a christian I dont think its wrong.. I understand having children will be difficult for those in incest relationships.. because of society and because of abnormalities with DNA. Even in the bible it never specifies Father-Daughter to be forbidden... plus it sounds more like no coveting a man's property more than anything.. Here are the scriptures on incest specified for men:

INCEST


Taken from the HOLY BIBLE: NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION (C) 1978 by the New
York Bible Society, used by permission of Zondervan Bible Publishers.

LEV 18:6 "'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual
relations. I am the LORD.

7 "'Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your
mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her. -NO SEX WITH MOTHER

8 "'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would
dishonor your father. - NO SEX WITH FATHERS WIFE

9 "'Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's
daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in the same home
or elsewhere. - NO SEX WITH YOUR SISTER

10 "'Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your
daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you. - NO SEX WITH YOUR GRANDCHILDREN

11 "'Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father's wife,
born to your father; she is your sister. - NO SEX WITH SISTER/STEP SISTER OR HALF

12 "'Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your
father's close relative. - NO SEX WITH YOUR AUNT

13 "'Do not have sexual relations with your mother's sister, because she
is your mother's close relative. - NO SEX WITH YOUR AUNT

14 "'Do not dishonor your father's brother by approaching his wife to have
sexual relations; she is your aunt. - NO SEX WITH YOUR AUNT EVEN IF ITS JUST BY MARRIAGE

15 "'Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your
son's wife; do not have relations with her. - NO SEX WITH DAUGHTER IN LAW

16 "'Do not have sexual relations with your brother's wife; that would
dishonor your brother. - NO SEX WITH SISTER IN LAW

17 "'Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do
not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's
daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness. - NO SEX WITH BOTH A WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER OR THE WOMANS GRAND DAUGHTER.

18 "'Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual
relations with her while your wife is living. - NO SEX WITH YOUR SISTER IN LAW WHILE YOUR WIFE LIVES.

20:11 "'If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his
father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads. - NO SEX WITH FATHER'S WIFE

12 "'If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to
death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their
own heads. - NO SEX WITH DAUGHTER IN LAW/ SON'S WIFE

17 "'If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his
mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut
off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will
be held responsible. - NO SEX/MARRIAGE WITH SISTER

19 "'Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or
your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be
held responsible. - NO SEX WITH YOUR AUNT

20 "'If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will
be held responsible; they will die childless. - NO SEX WITH UNCLES WIFE/AUNT

21 "'If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has
dishonored his brother. They will be childless. - NO SEX/MARRIAGE WITH SISTER IN LAW/BROTHERS WIFE

DEU 22:30 A man is not to marry his father's wife; he must not dishonor
his father's bed. - NO SEX/MARRIAGE WITH FATHER'S WIFE

27:10 Obey the LORD your God and follow his commands and decrees that I
give you today."

22 "Cursed is the man who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his
father or the daughter of his mother." Then all the people shall say,
"Amen!" - NO SEX WITH SISTER OR DAUGHTER OF FATHER/MOTHER

23 "Cursed is the man who sleeps with his mother-in-law." Then all the
people shall say, "Amen!" NO SEX WITH MOTHER IN LAW

EZE 22:11 In you one man commits a detestable offense with his neighbor's
wife, another shamefully defiles his daughter-in-law, and another violates
his sister, his own father's daughter. NO SEX WITH NEIGHBORS WIFE/DAUGHTER IN LAW/SISTER

1CO 5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you,
and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's
wife. - NO SEX WITH FATHERS WIFE

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[Erhman]

Those who commit incestous acts cannot be 100% sound-minded people. they are are mentally unstable at times and most of them regret once they come back to their senses. If you allow your sexual pleasure to rule over your reasoning faculty and sense of judgment then you are a living-dead. Incest is a great sin and those who commit incestous acts deserve death in my opinion.

Its horrible and disgusting. I cant believe anyone actually does it of their own free will. I also don't understand how a man would want to have sex with his very own daughter or a brother with a sister. So gross.

[DaughterUK]

Originally Posted by Erhman

Those who commit incestous acts cannot be 100% sound-minded people. they are are mentally unstable at times and most of them regret once they come back to their senses. If you allow your sexual pleasure to rule over your reasoning faculty and sense of judgment then you are a living-dead. Incest is a great sin and those who commit incestous acts deserve death in my opinion.

You'd KILL me just for being different? We aren't harming anyone, and we've taken more than adequate precautions against pregnancy. Also, I can speak from personal experience that it is not a matter of letting sexual pleasure override other considerations, like in any other relationship, sex is only a small part of what we have. Incest is a type of relationship where the family bond and the lovers bond merges to become one. We love each other as family, and as lovers simultaneously. It is that love, not mere sex, which makes our relationship so fulfilling and beautiful.

Its horrible and disgusting. I cant believe anyone actually does it of their own free will. I also don't understand how a man would want to have sex with his very own daughter or a brother with a sister. So gross.

What is horrible and disgusting to one person is a beautiful relationship to another. Once you understand that human beings are spirits that have bodies, you begin to realize how ridiculous it is to say 'your body and your body share a large portion of DNA, therefore you're disgusting for being together'. I am in this relationship of my own free will because.... I fell deeply in love with the man who is my dad, and he felt the same for me, and we had to work with that. He isn't just my dad, he is my soul mate.

[Ogoshi]

Religiously speaking, incest is a great sin. In Christianity Incest is a great sin. In Islam Allah is against incest. In Buddhism incest is a bad act. In Judaism, incest is a crime against entire generations. In human terms however, I don't think it is fair to punish incest couples by law especially if the two people involved are at a certain age where they can make decisions for themselves.

[john3cena16]

I had a huge crush on my cousin (first cousin no less).. she is just exactly my type.. though religiously and culturally this is very bad... so I didnt follow through... I kept wishing though... that we were not family... so i can be.. you know?
Being on that end of the stick.. make me realize how "not bad" it really was.... Its love... dont you see?

[carl50nwagn3r]

Woah? you and your cuz?
the question was did she like you or was it all in your head?
But really, I guess there is nothing bad about it, but think of the kids... Genetic disorders are rampant with these kinds of relationships

[br3thart]

I don't know how anyone can ever marry a sibling or cousin. I guess from my view its kind of difficult to understand such a situation could really exist. but i guess it does. And strangely enough, I have no problem with it.
Global Fx

@daughterUK I bet ur type think we can all have sex in public. Like just grab at the opposite sex and let go as the cock and hen. Where's the sanity? What makes you the higher mammal? What of your mum(dead or alive)?

All incestuous and gays are Delusive to the society and the whole world. They don't have any other support but turn weak and very low self esteem.

If they want to do it, shut up and do it illegally and quietly.

No point talking this, not even a global issue. They're just defective human beings.

For social reason, I may act like I don't bother, but to those people for once I know you're in one of these categories, you're painted black with no more values to me and the society and the whole world I perceive and I know.

It should not be made legal, never.

For the gays and incestuous, go get some help.

You don't need to fuck your Dad Mom, or whoever own kins. You have bad emotional sex instincts.

Learn to build good emotional sex. Find a girl friend and do it, learn build from it. If you're a chick, find a boy friend.



Draw a line of what is Parental love and care. Sex is a different thing.

Dammit, I think more professional help needed in this 21st century to give them support or help.

First, you must get your brain straight.