Islam and Terrorism: Is Islam a crazy Religion?

[kr15py]

You can't say that any of the religions is crazy. As a matter of fact the christian crusaders killed many non-Christians too for the sake of faith.

[ragnarok]

Originally Posted by manu1991

At the cost of sounding rude, I will have to say Yes

It only promotes violence against women , the prophet himself was shown to be married to a young girl . It castisizes homosexuality and other religions

Mr manu it is true that the Prophet was married to a young girl and in the current age it would be considered pedophilic, but you can not ignore the fact that his first wife was 20 years older than him.

Islam says that there is no age limit in marriage as long as both the man and women agree to marry each other. If his young wife would have not agreed to marry him the prophet would have not used force.

Islam gives great respect to women but muslim women are required to have parda because It is a fact and islam confirms this fact that males get arroused by seeing females.They ask women to stay away from men as to get rid of adultry. Adultry is a common problem in our world and due to it not even the relation of a husband and wife is safe as both do not know if the other is having sexual contacts with some one else.

about the other part of your post i will reply later as i am short of time but for now just try reading the Surrah from where the words are taken or 12 lines before it as to understand the context of the surrah maybe you will find the answer.

[bodil4o]

Originally Posted by manu1991

At the cost of sounding rude, I will have to say Yes

It only promotes violence against women , the prophet himself was shown to be married to a young girl . It castisizes homosexuality and other religions

This is what one of the verses say





There is absolutely no tolerance

well that seems crazy to me

[beelzebul]

I don't understand it.
A lot of people associate the radical terrorist with the religion of Islam, because these terrorist HAPPEN to be muslim.
There are loads of Buddhist and Christian and Hinduist, etc terrorist. But Buddha, Christian, and Hindu are not a crazy religion.

I have heard many stories about Islam but I never imagine it to be this terrible. If these verses are in the Quran as you say then Osama Bin Laden is a prophet of Allah according to the Quran. Everything about Islam is Kill and Kill and Kill.

Beheadings and stonings..Prophet marrying a 6 year old and then having sex with her at nine..Yes this religion IS barbaric and crazy

yeah it is.

Read Articles and you'll see how f****d up their religion is.

I do not know why you are so focused on religion! That is a personal issue. whenever you put it in society, then you get war and suicide bombing and so on... Muslims should know that none of their countries are developed and they can not criticize developed countries in Europe because of their religion. Lets just love God and nothing else more

[DaughterUK]

Originally Posted by sunshine

I do not know why you are so focused on religion! That is a personal issue. whenever you put it in society, then you get war and suicide bombing and so on... Muslims should know that none of their countries are developed and they can not criticize developed countries in Europe because of their religion. Lets just love God and nothing else more

The reason why people are focused on religion is because a religion is what gives many people a code to live by. If that code is peaceful then most adherents of that religion will likewise be peaceful.

Of course the majority of Muslims are not violent, but those that HAVE become suicide bombers did so because they believed it was their divine duty to slaughter infidels. Usually it is disaffected young Muslim males that get swept up by the preachers of hate who brainwash them and then send them on 'martyrdom' missions where they blow themselves up.

The Koran does contain a great many passages which are calls for violence, to ignore that fact and subsequently erroneously label the religion as peaceful is to commit a gross dishonesty. Most of the adherents of Islam are peaceful, but Islam itself is NOT a religion of peace.

DaughterUK

[shymaaz]

As said by daughter Uk that " Islam is not a religion of peace" but the followers of Islam are peaceful...how come? When you are a follower then your deeds reflect the basics of what you are following. Today the case is that most of so called muslims are making mockery of what Islam preaches. They are not following the path of Islam and yet they claim themselves to be true muslims.
Infact Islam is a religion of peace, harmony. love and equality. The real fact is that today most third world muslim countries are living below the poverty line and their youth is misguided and utilized by the evil powers to fulfill their filthy aims. Lack of proper education in these countries also go in the favor of those who have their mission to spoil the image of Islam.

[DaughterUK]

Originally Posted by shymaaz

As said by daughter Uk that " Islam is not a religion of peace" but the followers of Islam are peaceful...how come? When you are a follower then your deeds reflect the basics of what you are following. Today the case is that most of so called muslims are making mockery of what Islam preaches. They are not following the path of Islam and yet they claim themselves to be true muslims.
Infact Islam is a religion of peace, harmony. love and equality. The real fact is that today most third world muslim countries are living below the poverty line and their youth is misguided and utilized by the evil powers to fulfill their filthy aims. Lack of proper education in these countries also go in the favor of those who have their mission to spoil the image of Islam.

shymazz, I'm afraid that you're in error. Please read this post http://cozay.com/forum/f3/the-penalt...s-death-t2361/

Please please do some research.

DaughterUK

[alexey93]

I live in Israel and i'm atheist (a person that doesn't believe in god) so you may think that i think that Islam is crazy religion and that their god isn't real. 2 of my friends DIED in a bus explosion in Jerusalem that was caused by Arabs. But i think that it's all about education and i believe that there is a lot of arabs that believe only in Allah and not in killing people who don't.

In my Opinion Islam is definitely a religion that was started by a lunatic and forcefully followed by others.It is a religion that Teaches/promotes disrespect to others,it teaches murder,sexual perversion and most importantly intolerance. I live in Muslim country and my personal opinion is that this is the religion of the devil. In some Muslim countries (Pakistan For example) Young underage girls (between 12 to 14 ) who are not of Muslim faith are kidnapped ,raped and converted by Muslim and since it is a muslim country it is all good with the courts because it is the will of their so called god. In other Countries ( Malaysia For example) people of other faiths are persecuted daily. they are not allowed to even pray in peace most of the non Muslims are even allowed to even build their own church/temples.And least we forget about the midnight arrests of non Muslims.

For all you American,westerner who are contemplating of converting to Islam, please for heaven sake reconsider. Islam is like the great second hand car salesman. the moment you sign the documents the car fall apart and you are stuck with the payments.It is the religion of the devil. don't believe me read John 16:2 . the most relevant passage in the bible in our times

[AltMvz]

oh yeah as for the post above mine, yeah the crazy bible talking lunatic! Don't even reply to this idiot. he doesn't deserve to be recognised as a fellow human being. Just a sad looney with nothing better to do but preach hate and ignorance. And what's laughable is he seems to be of the religious persuasion! WOW. Scary!

[superrocker]

Originally Posted by keeper

I don’t know why Islam as a religion is permitting so much killings just for the sake of their religion. I think they call this practice Jihad. Do you think that Islam is a crazy religion?

I can't agree with your view that Islam is permitting killings just for the sake of religion.In fact Islam is the religion which teaches its followers love and peace.According to the principles of Islam any known action from an individual which will hurt another one is a sin.Islam is not allowing any of it's followers to kill others.
Actually the terrorism groups are not formed for the sake of religion alone.There are many political reasons behind them.And it is the political reasons which make them kill others.If you think Islam is a crazy religion then we have to say that all other religions are also crazy.The basic principles of all the religions are love and peace.And it is the humans which turn them in to the way of violence.

[seimens]

you cant blame on any religion.Every religion it wont belief...islam is also a good religion .it practiced by world wide people,dont post like this.this may lead you to many problems.

[taha.bluebird]

@ ro1e

If you turn up to the pages of history you can find that the most dominant and peaceful religion i.e. ISLAM ruled whole Israel.
Their first Mosque Masjid Aqsa is situated there. So it must be a sacred city for muslims also. From the very starting Israel was in the hold of Muslims which was later on snatched from them. Now you might be mature and can understand their feelings also..

[Deepa]

sometimes we take some of these things to the extremes ignoring those in the middle. What we all should know is that not every Muslim is a terrorist. In fact, no terrorist is a Muslim. Those are just religious extremist who go about tarnishing the name of Islam. Those terrorists are not Muslims. They are just tarnishing the good name of Islam.

[alexia]

Islam isn't crazy you just have stupid people doing crazy things blaming what they do on religion. even without islam these people would still be bombing buildings it's a psychotic problem and nothing to do with a religion.

you can't say Islam is crazy just because some religious extremists are spoiling the name of Islam. If so then Christianity is also crazy. talk about the corrupt Popes and Bishops. Talk about Catholic and Protestants war and the number of innocent lives killed. what about the numerous cases of sexual abuse in Catholic church? Can you say that Christianity and for that matter the catholic church is crazy?

I can't say whether Islam is crazy or not but as for me and my family we do all we can to keep Islam out. I don't even encourage my younger brothers reading about Islam. I am a Christian and I am proud to be a Christian and all my family members are Christians and none is and none will ever become a Muslim.

terrorism is growing by the day and it is all due to the preachings of Islam. because of one stupid Nigerian terrorist who wanted to blow up a plane on Christmas day I had to wait for almost 6 hours at the airport. I doubt if Mohammed was a true prophet of Allah.

This is how the western world view Islam. If Islam is crazy then what word would you use for Christianity because Christianity is the worst of them all. Sodomy and name it! From ordinary church-goer to Arch Bishop. Rampant sexual molestation of little Children.

[Phillip.Lane]

Originally Posted by Musa

This is how the western world view Islam.

Oh, so now we're speaking for the whole Western Hemisphere, are we? Islam is completely, I mean COMPLETELY self-contradicting. Any religion of "peace and love in the name of Allah" ("peace and love"- Hah!) that says to go and kill everyone who doesn't agree with their religion is obviously insane! Call me "insensitive" or "intolerant" (how ironic- Muslims calling me "intolerant"!), but I don't think this killer religion has hardly any touch on reality. And if that alone wasn't enough, Muslims think the world should be "united" in worship under a "God-Appointed"- (yeah, right!)- Caliph. In fact, I don't think Islam is a true religion, because they really can't choose not to be Muslims without getting killed by another fanatic -Look at these guys! They call it "Islamic Piety". I call it acting out of fear- from each other!!! Islam could be a complete menace to the entire free world!!! It's time to speak out, you that would call yourselves free, and stop the menace!

[Labib]

What, brothers! Are we to allow such infidelic statements to soil the Name of Allah and His Blessed Prophet? No, brothers, we must rise up in the Sacred Holiness of Allah Himself, to cleanse their souls from those blasphemies! Brothers in Islam, I urge you, arm yourselves with Holy Piety and Fidelity, the Tools of the Prophet Himself, to fight the evil in these unbelievers! How I pity their souls! If they do not purge themselves now, I pity them when they must walk over the swaying bridge that is the only thing separating them from the Flames, the swaying bridge that their infidelity is, at this very moment, cutting like a knife through. Heed the call to arms of Righteousness of Allah!

[Kofi]

Originally Posted by Labib

What, brothers! Are we to allow such infidelic statements to soil the Name of Allah and His Blessed Prophet? No, brothers, we must rise up in the Sacred Holiness of Allah Himself, to cleanse their souls from those blasphemies! Brothers in Islam, I urge you, arm yourselves with Holy Piety and Fidelity, the Tools of the Prophet Himself, to fight the evil in these unbelievers! How I pity their souls! If they do not purge themselves now, I pity them when they must walk over the swaying bridge that is the only thing separating them from the Flames, the swaying bridge that their infidelity is, at this very moment, cutting like a knife through. Heed the call to arms of Righteousness of Allah!

You sound very interesting. However, I would appreciate it so much if you could clarify some of these statements.. For example, by "cleanse their souls" do you imply Qur'an 8:59 (Kill the infidels)??.. I would also appreciate you clarifying "...walk over the swaying bridge.."

According to the Holy Qu'ran, Is it possible for a Christian or a Jew to enter the Kingdom of God?
Before Islam came to Africa, my great grandparents were traditional worshippers. They believed in the Supreme God. My great great grandfather knew nothing about Islam and he knew nothing about Christianity. My great great grandfather knew nothing about the Holy Qu'ran and he knew nothing about the Holy Prophet. However, my great great grandfather believed in the Almighty God (Allah) and did worship the Almighty God sometimes through the lesser gods because my great great grandfather thought the Almighty God or Allah is too great and too powerful to approach directly. My great great grandfather is dead and gone. He never heard of Islam and the Holy Prophet so in this case, will it be possible for my great great grandfather who died without hearing about Islam to enter the kingdom of God? what does the Qu'ran say?

[Labib]

Originally Posted by Kofi

You sound very interesting. However, I would appreciate it so much if you could clarify some of these statements.. For example, by "cleanse their souls" do you imply Qur'an 8:59 (Kill the infidels)??.. I would also appreciate you clarifying "...walk over the swaying bridge.."

According to the Holy Qu'ran, Is it possible for a Christian or a Jew to enter the Kingdom of God?
Before Islam came to Africa, my great grandparents were traditional worshippers. They believed in the Supreme God. My great great grandfather knew nothing about Islam and he knew nothing about Christianity. My great great grandfather knew nothing about the Holy Qu'ran and he knew nothing about the Holy Prophet. However, my great great grandfather believed in the Almighty God (Allah) and did worship the Almighty God sometimes through the lesser gods because my great great grandfather thought the Almighty God or Allah is too great and too powerful to approach directly. My great great grandfather is dead and gone. He never heard of Islam and the Holy Prophet so in this case, will it be possible for my great great grandfather who died without hearing about Islam to enter the kingdom of God? what does the Qu'ran say?

My Most Distinguished Brother Kofi,

By "cleanse their souls" I implied Qu'ran 8:59 in that we must kill the entirely infidelic spirit within them, replacing it instead with spirit of submission to Allah. By "walk over the swaying bridge", I meant that on the Day Of Reckoning, every man must pass over the Fiery Crater on a narrow bridge in order to enter Paradise. Those who fall, weighted by their bad deeds, will remain in Eternal Torment! And as to your question, your great-great-grandfather, if he adhered to all the Holy Laws of the Qu'ran, he will enter Paradise.
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Heed the call to arms of the Righteousness of Allah!

[Phillip.Lane]

Originally Posted by Labib

Heed the call to arms of the Righteousness of Allah!

Originally Posted by Labib

arm yourselves with Holy Piety and Fidelity, the Tools of the Prophet Himself, to fight the evil in these unbelievers!

My, my, declaring Jihad? This brings us back to post one:

Originally Posted by keeper

I don’t know why Islam as a religion is permitting so much killings just for the sake of their religion. I think they call this practice Jihad.

"Arm yourselves...to fight"?!?! "Heed the call to arms"?!?! This sure sounds like Jihad to me.

But I do want to thank you, Labib, for proving my point in my last post. Islam is a crazy religion, and, thanks to Labib, it has shown its true colors of intolerance and murderous, violent rage.

As I said before, it's time to speak up, you who would call yourselves free, and stop the menace!

[Kofi]

Originally Posted by Labib

My Most Distinguished Brother Kofi,

By "cleanse their souls" I implied Qu'ran 8:59 in that we must kill the entirely infidelic spirit within them, replacing it instead with spirit of submission to Allah. By "walk over the swaying bridge", I meant that on the Day Of Reckoning, every man must pass over the Fiery Crater on a narrow bridge in order to enter Paradise. Those who fall, weighted by their bad deeds, will remain in Eternal Torment! And as to your question, your great-great-grandfather, if he adhered to all the Holy Laws of the Qu'ran, he will enter Paradise.

Heed the call to arms of the Righteousness of Allah!

Brother Labib, From what you are saying, the Qu'ran implies "kill the infidelic spirit" and not the "infidels".
please take a look at this verse: Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." This verse in my little understanding implies Jihad in the worst form. what do you think? The Holy Qu'ran Supports Jihad?

Originally Posted by Phillip.Lane

My, my, declaring Jihad? This brings us back to post one:



"Arm yourselves...to fight"?!?! "Heed the call to arms"?!?! This sure sounds like Jihad to me.

But I do want to thank you, Labib, for proving my point in my last post. Islam is a crazy religion, and, thanks to Labib, it has shown its true colors of intolerance and murderous, violent rage.

As I said before, it's time to speak up, you who would call yourselves free, and stop the menace!

As usual, Lane is correct!