The Israeli - Palestinian Issue. What you think?

AltMvz · ,

I have a pretty strong view on this. I believe humanity has come far since world war 1. I think if you compared human social evolution to a wrinkled shirt back in 1918, it would have most of those wrinkles ironed out in this time, except for a few major wrinkles. And i'd compare the israely - palestinian issue as one major wrinkle.

I'm not going to beat about the bush arguing both sides. No. Because frankly one side has a pretty thin argument for their stance. Israel. I'm not a fanatic either. I support Israel's right to exist. No question. I think rocket attacks from gaza, west bank need to stop.

But here's my argument. And i have said it before. If your a smaller man and your constantly being pushed around by a bigger man, while an even bigger man just stares and does nothing, i'd call that wrong.
And if that smaller man grew to hate the one pushing him and even the one watching i wouldn't at all be suprised. Frankly i'd be the same. Human nature. I'd fight back anyway i can.

Israel certainly has a right to exist. But so does a state for palestinian people. Everyone universely agrees of israels right to exist. Why does it become a more difficult question when it comes to a palestinian state? Are they a lesser people? more stupid? Morally inferior?
No they are just as important as israely people. Just as human.

And don't give me that argument that "They are the chosen people". Give me a break. I'm not even gonna argue with that. I'd prefer a debate with those with unrestricted thought.

As for Israel being under threat? I don't think anyone's gonna mess with nuclear bombs. Do you?

The palestinians are one of the poorest people in the world. And i'm talking about those living in palestine not elsewhere. And what do the rest of the world do? Nothing. Perfect breeding ground for terrorism!

But i hope Obama can lean on the israelies pretty good to make a palestinian state possible. At least he's trying. But Israels lobby is very powerful, woven into the fabric of American foreign policy. Come on Obama you can do it! I hope.

Kofi · ,

The question I keep asking myself is, can the nation or the state of Israel exist without the help of the United States?

As you said, Palestinians are very poor and the major reason is that, the young Palestinians these days do not cherish education. more than 50% have never entered classroom before in their entire life which means more trouble for the world in the near future.

Do to war and political instability within that region of the world, poverty level is very high but no charity organization is ready to go to that region and what are the consequences? children are left without education. Children are dying from poverty and hunger. Instead of educating the youth, these people busy themselves with weapons of mass destruction.

It is not safe today day but tomorrow may be worse than today if nothing is done to help the youths within that part of the world. These people engage in terrorism because the majority lack basic education and understanding.

Instead of spending billions of dollars on wars, the world could help solve some of these problems by building more schools in these parts of the world and giving the youth the quality education they urgently need

AltMvz · ,

the state of israel can exist. it's the most powerful in that region and is a nuclear power. it recieves about 30 billion a year to fund it's military from the U.S. Palestinians recieve a whole lot less. Europeans try and fill the vacum but are somewhat thwarted by the Israelies.

Palestinians are very well educated people. Palestinians would jump at the chance to recieve an education we recieve in the west. But they don't get that choice. They are not stupid. They are not lazy. But they are hindered by israelies when it comes to trade. And schools and commercial areas are bulldozed whenever israelies feel like it. Trade is restricted by the israelies. Why would they want a prosperous palestinian people?

The red cross are constantly present in Palestine. And the israelies constantly get in their way. They even bombed a major red cross builing in the last invasion of the lebanon.
Israel don't have mickey mouse weapons. They have lazer guided missiles. They knew what they were doing. Not many countries in the world treat an organisation such as the red cross so badly.

As for saying the palestinians have weapons of mass destruction. Please!!!
rocks and a few rockets(still bad) cannot compare to the weaponary of the israelies.

Body counts in any conflict between the two always always result in a much higher death rate palestinians. Althought you won't be told that in the mainstream media of America. In fact youll hear much more on one dead israely soldier, his name, age, family, etc but virtually nothing on an equivelant 7 dead palestinians on the same day. You won't hear their names.

Israelies have a right to protect themselves. Absolutely. But i wish they had a little compassion for the ones they oppress. They were oppressed for a lot of their history in russia, spain, France and finally Germany. They know how hard it is to be treated badly by another people. You think that because of this they would have more of an understanding of the wrong and misery that it causes.

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I just want to say im a Palestinian and im glad that the rest of the world is finally seeing whats going on. Even though we will not get the state hood we desirve. I just wish the rest of the Middle eastern countries would stand up to the Israelis and Americans. Because the west depends on the middle east for OIL but the people in charge are money hungry and would rather make a deal with the devil rather than help their own. Its not like they dont have enough money they have more than thay can EVER spend but I guess greed cant be helped. Im also happy that the rest of the world gets to see the Israeli president do what ever he wishes with no regard for any one else. How is he any different than all the dictators that do what ever they want without listning oh yah they get exiled Castro, Saddam, Chaves, Ghadaffi not that their good people but why does Natinyaho get a pass. But Natinyaho still gets the support from the rest of the world WHY. I just have one final thing to say if you came home one day and your whole family was killed by israeli solders your home was taken away by israili solders what would you do would you peacfully leave or would you go and terrorriz Israeli solders?

Wolverine1984 · ,